Gaetzgate

[Innula Zenovka]

When you are using Signal to share encrypted messages you are aware that the other person is also using Signal. Both parties are aware of what is going on, so if you do not trust the other person and want to keep a record for your own protection you have to take a screenshot because that is done through the operating system and not the app. Greenberg could have deleted the screenshots once he became aware the FBI was involved, but he has used this as part of his bargain to cooperate in the investigation. It seems pretty clear that Greenberg knew what he was doing. He used the screenshots as part of his efforts to cooperate and cover his own derriere, and Gaetz is learning the downside of working with someone who is just as sleazy as he is. Looks like the FBI found two real winners here, and Greenberg was prepared and happened to flip first. The downside is that Greenberg may get off relatively easy when both of these cockroaches deserve first hand knowledge of just how grotesque the US justice system can be.

It's not difficult.

• Never put it down in writing unless you're comfortable with reading it on the front page of The Mail or hearing it read out in court.
• Never be interviewed by the police without a lawyer present.

Clients! Who'd have 'em?

It's like an old retired senior detective friend of mine once told me (I paraphrase, of course), "White collar criminals, I love 'em. They're so f-ing arrogant and they just know that they're so much smarter than a thick old copper. Ordinary villains have dealt with us before, and know to shut up, but these guys just know they're too clever to need to worry about the likes of me, and that made my job so much easier when I went after them."

 

[danielravennest]

It's like an old retired senior detective friend of mine once told me (I paraphrase, of course), "White collar criminals, I love 'em. They're so f-ing arrogant and they just know that they're so much smarter than a thick old copper. Ordinary villains have dealt with us before, and know to shut up, but these guys just know they're too clever to need to worry about the likes of me, and that made my job so much easier when I went after them."

Playing the dumb cop was the whole premise of the Columbo detective series.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Playing the dumb cop was the whole premise of the Columbo detective series.

According to my friend, it wasn't a matter of playing dumb so much as smart people with degrees and successful professional careers always tended to be overconfident when dealing with a rather slow and methodical old chap, obviously from a blue-collar background.

Add to that, unlike most of his customers, who'd been in and out of trouble for years, white-collar criminals very rarely have any practical experience of actually committing crimes without making a few real newbie mistakes, let alone getting away with it.

Add to that the Dunning-Kruger effect, and you can see why he thought they made his job easy for him -- they didn't think like either criminals or cops, and that never goes well when you break the law.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Playing the dumb cop was the whole premise of the Columbo detective series.

I've been on a Columbo kick lately, so the series is very fresh in my mind, and Columbo doesn't really play act being dumb. Instead, he's a bit preoccupied and disheveled and working class in his sensibilities, which the murderer inevitably misinterprets as stupidity. It's more like a sly poke at class bias.

 

[detrius]

I've been on a Columbo kick lately, so the series is very fresh in my mind, and Columbo doesn't really play act being dumb. Instead, he's a bit preoccupied and disheveled and working class in his sensibilities, which the murderer inevitably misinterprets as stupidity. It's more like a sly poke at class bias.

Didn't he frequently use "my boss made me do it" as the reason for coming back over and over again to ask more questions?

 

[detrius]

However, I think my favourite "just one more question" moment comes from this scene:


I wonder if Walter Matthau borrowed Peter Falk's signature trenchcoat for this film.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Yeah, sure, and he has some used mining machines he can sell you for cheap [that tax payers paid for]...

 

[Innula Zenovka]

The sleazy, sordid Matt Gaetz scandal: are the walls now closing in on him?

Investigation into Florida congressman is reported to have grown beyond sex trafficking allegations

www.theguardian.com

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Kinzinger Burns Gaetz: You Should Stay Away From Tweets About Things ‘Aging Well’

Rep. Adam Kinzinger delivered an absolutely brutal response to his embattled Republican colleague.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Romana]

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Dear God in heaven

Investigators with the Justice Department’s Public Integrity division are now examining Gaetz’s interactions with young women and cannabis industry contacts, CNN reported, as part of a probe into whether Gaetz was provided with sex from escorts in exchange for political favors. The sprawling criminal inquiry that originated with Greenberg has since morphed into an investigation into Gaetz’s role in an alleged prostitution ring that includes potential sex crimes with a 17-year-old girl.

Rep. Matt Gaetz Snorted Cocaine With Escort Who Had ‘No Show’ Gov’t Job

Witnesses revealed the wild scene at an after-party for a GOP fundraiser in Orlando.

www.thedailybeast.com

The whole point about paying off a certain type of corrupt official in coke and hookers, and the advantage to him of accepting this kind of inducement rather than cash, is precisely that it doesn't leave a paper trail, or not unless you're a complete idiot, which these chaps obviously are.

These clowns, if they ever thought it advisable to go into business as burglars, would doubtless first equip themselves with eye masks and striped jerseys, and make their getaway by running down the street with jemmys sticking out of their pockets and bags marked "swag" slung over their shoulders.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

This surely must be some more of those family values that are touted so freely about as being representative of the Republican party. Well, now I guess we can easily understand why he is such a Trumper. Corrupt understands corrupt.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

This surely must be some more of those family values that are touted so freely about as being representative of the Republican party. Well, now I guess we can easily understand why he is such a Trumper. Corrupt understands corrupt.

It's the utter shamelessness and arrogance that astonish me, every time -- "We can get away with being comedicaly corrupt and incompetent because we're rich and we can do WFT we like because we don't care and no one has ever tried to stop us."

In other words, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

I'm generally pretty tolerant of misbehaviour involving both recreational sex between consenting adults and recreational drug use (I'd be a bit of a hypocrite otherwise) but guys like this, to use a technical term, are simply taking the piss and have to go down.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

It's the utter shamelessness and arrogance that astonish me, every time -- "We can get away with being comedicaly corrupt and incompetent because we're rich and we can do WFT we like because we don't care and no one has ever tried to stop us."

In other words, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

I'm generally pretty tolerant of misbehaviour involving both recreational sex between consenting adults and recreational drug use (I'd be a bit of a hypocrite otherwise) but guys like this, to use a technical term, are simply taking the piss and have to go down.

I think that, part of the problem is that, wealthy people are more than able to drag out the legal process. Doesn't matter how they got that wealth, it's still money that can be used to thwart the justice system. It's a joke, by now how easy you can do this. Meanwhile the state has limited funds, due to only middle class and lower paying taxes to support such expensive endeavors. Only got worse with the most prominent and powerful member of our political class thwarting, and still continuing to thwart, justice.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

This surely must be some more of those family values that are touted so freely about as being representative of the Republican party. Well, now I guess we can easily understand why he is such a Trumper. Corrupt understands corrupt.

Birds of a feather certainly flock together, it would sure seem.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Romana]

"America's newsroom"? They wish.

 

[Romana]

 

[Free]

Apparently, Gaetz feels he hasn't been in the news enough lately.

EDIT: Lost the tweet. I'll just post the source that caused the tweetstorm.