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PUN POLICE.That's why there's no ignore.
And this feature has been demanded since ages, but it just falls on deaf ears.
What happened to Jahar? (I liked him a lot, though we didn't always agree). I hope he's OK.It's funny how many of my old drafts start with the words "Fuck you Jahar".![]()
In SLU there was a thread asking help outside mainstream medicine, it turned into a giant shouting match and he hasn't been seen since.What happened to Jahar? (I liked him a lot, though we didn't always agree). I hope he's OK.
it's becoming mainstream, hence the arglebargle vs. Jahar.In SLU there was a thread asking help outside mainstream medicine, it turned into a giant shouting match and he hasn't been seen since.
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As a minor correction, I think that often enough gaslighting is not done intentionally and not carefully set. Many personality types will rapidly convince themselves it never happened and/or was such a minor issue, that it doesn't matter. Some people just have no self awareness.This is because trying to argue with a gaslighter’s misdirections and ad hominems is walking into his carefully set trap. I stay meta and address the gaslighting rather than try to get a discussion going. It works well enough because right wing gaslighters are very predictable.
I agree with that part. Lately, it seems to me the right wing types are media programmed and argue in unison. The less educated of them turn into an angry mob when their received wisdom is questioned, like a cult.As a minor correction, I think that often enough gaslighting is not done intentionally and not carefully set. Many personality types will rapidly convince themselves it never happened and/or was such a minor issue, that it doesn't matter. Some people just have no self awareness.
I agree some do it intentionally. There is some disagreement on exactly how much of the population are sociopaths. I think most data suggests that it's at most 4%. That 4% is very noticeable and very loud in some internet communities though. I hope like hell it's not more than that...I agree with that part. Lately, it seems to me the right wing types are media programmed and argue in unison. The less educated of them turn into an angry mob when their received wisdom is questioned, like a cult.
There are personality types that gaslight deliberately though, and plenty of morally deformed people who believe their inferiors don't deserve honesty.
True, but if we could convince people of #1, no one would think of pushing #2.Something kind of related to this that I've been thinking about. Consider these two propositions:
1) Vaccines mostly work for the diseases they are meant to prevent, and don't cause autism.
2) Vaccinations should be mandatory.
The first statement is objective and provable. The second statement is subjective and not provable. It's important to know the difference! I occasionally see someone trying to claim their opinions on objective issues are valid. But I think it's at least as common for someone to mistakenly believe they "proved" something about something that's actually subjective.
I think that's true of this particular example, but I was more trying to talk about subjectivity in general. I've encountered quite a few people who think their taste in music is on firm ground as well...True, but if we could convince people of #1, no one would think of pushing #2.
I think it's worse than that. I don't think the profit motive adequately explains the anti vaccine movement for example. Big insurance companies, hospitals and healthcare workers are putting a lot more resources into trying to fight the antivaxx nonsense than the other way around.Voter ignorance permits a lot of scapegoating and racketeering. Eventually a regulation gets proposed as a solution, or a consciousness raising campaign, but the root of the problem is usually someone making money off ignorance.