Election Day Watch Party Room

[Beebo Brink]

Mrs. Beebo and I are in for the long haul. I won't be calling it a day for hours yet.

 

[Soen Eber]

This pleasant bit, especially the last paragraph, popped into my mailbox from Democracy Docket:

Judge rejects RNC challenge to Georgia ballots

• In a win for voters, a federal judge rejected the Republican National Committee’s (RNC) lawsuit today trying to block seven Democrat-leaning Georgia counties from counting absentee ballots that voters returned in person over the past few days.
  
  
• The Trump-appointed district court judge said the Republican complaint “does not withstand even the most basic level of statutory review and reading comprehension.”

 

[Free]

I have too many political tabs open on my web browsers right now.

I need a few porn tabs to balance things out.

 

[Lexxi]

Bah. I always hate the part where they say "polls just closed, 2% of the results are in, so we are declaring this seat for [insert name here]". pfft.

ETA: Haven't specifically seen it tonight, but part of the above is that it would be coupled with "98% of the votes are in for this other district, 60% is for [insert name], so it is too close to call"

 

[WolfEyes]

Am I dead yet?

 

[Isabeau]

I get that we’re at the start, and that many red states are the first to show results, but I still find it all almost impossible to believe. Why oh why is it still this close?

 

[Khamon]

I have too many political tabs open on my web browsers right now.

I need a few porn tabs to balance things out.

nah, nm, too easy

 

[Veritable Quandry]

In Ohio Brown is outperforming Harris. He always does better than other Democrats in state-wide races. It is too soon to know if he is going to keep his seat, but he is hanging in. If his vote had been closer to the Presidential race breakdown, it would be over already.

eta: The Libertarian candidate in the Senate race is picking up about 2%, while none of the third party candidates in the Presidential race are getting more than a fraction of a percent. Votes for Stein will not be counted.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I can't watch!

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

/me peeks. "bah." slams window shut.
/me peeks. "Grrrrr." slams window shut.
/watches something stupid on netflix... gets antsy, goes to peek again... resists... fails... peeks... rolls his eyes "why do I bother."
/me opens a bottle of wine... grouses on reddit about the latest game patch that broke stuff for him...

I need better distractions. =}

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Off to bed. I hope you guys don't have too stressful a night and that we all wake up to good news in the morning. Sending you all big hugs and love.

 

[Noodles]

I was just going to open this thread for comments, but now that you mention it, we could also set up inworld at my bar, the Duchess.

I was there earlier but I had to leave.

 

[Rose Karuna]

I saw that Amendment 4 to preserve a woman's right to choose did not pass in Florida. DeSatan tried all sorts of tricks trying to defeat it. Fuck him and all the assholes who voted against women, I hate them. I'm going to bed. So pissed right now, just knowing more women will die.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I could really use an emotional support Canadian right about now. I can't believe what I'm seeing!

 

[Veritable Quandry]

America would rather elect a rapist than a woman.

 

[Zaida Gearbox]

I'm also not going to stay up very late watching... will be in bed semi soon. And I'm pretty sure Trump was always expected to win Indiana and Kentucky?

I'm not surprised he won KY and IN - I'm surprised by how much. But, I'm also surprised he won the whole damn county. What a thing to wake up to. Hubman is very upset. I don't think it's the end of the world. I'm more concerned about them projecting the Republicans to win back the Senate - a Trump president and a Republican senate - that scares me.

"America would rather elect a rapist than a woman. "

I think it's more complicated than that. My son shocked me by voting for Trump, but a straight Dem ticket otherwise. He cited being upset with how we got backdoored with Harris for a candidate. Remember in 2016 when they were trying to force Hillary on us, the Dem elites said they didn't even have to have a primary.... So, Spawn thinks the whole thing with Biden dropping out and just appointing Harris was the plan from the beginning because she would have never made it through a fair and open primary season. His exact words were, "F the dems. They can't just do whatever they want and expect us to go along with it." And since Trump seems to have dominated with younger and first time voters, I'm thinking that is a common feeling/belief.

Also, you guys aren't gonna like this, but the whole Trans thing is hurting the Dems. I've heard more than my fair share of women saying that they're voting for 2 genders, woman only spaces, etc. You can yell, scream, and call names all you want, but it doesn't change how people feel.

Finally because the Dems have really become perceived as bullies who try and silence anyone who doesn't tow the party line a lot of people don't say how they feel/who they're going to vote for because they don't want to be bullied/called names.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

Dress it up however you want. We had a choice between hope and hate, and hate won.

All oppression's born of lies, I don't make the rules, I'm just one guy
All due respect, if getting spit on's how respect is now defined

Hungry for truth but you got screwed and drank the Kool-Aid, there's a line
It end directly at the edge of a mass grave, that's their design
Funny fact about a cage, they're never built for just one group
So when that cage is done with them and you're still poor, it come for you
The newest lowest on the totem, well golly gee, you have been used
You helped to fuel the death machine that down the line will kill you too (oops)

 

[Beebo Brink]

A lot of us hoped, even believed, that the U.S. was better than this.

We were wrong.

The Dems didn't do anything wrong, they put forth all the values and policies that I wanted and they made a great case for them. More people wanted what Trump was selling.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

I think it's more complicated than that. My son shocked me by voting for Trump, but a straight Dem ticket otherwise. He cited being upset with how we got backdoored with Harris for a candidate. Remember in 2016 when they were trying to force Hillary on us, the Dem elites said they didn't even have to have a primary.... So, Spawn thinks the whole thing with Biden dropping out and just appointing Harris was the plan from the beginning because she would have never made it through a fair and open primary season. His exact words were, "F the dems. They can't just do whatever they want and expect us to go along with it." And since Trump seems to have dominated with younger and first time voters, I'm thinking that is a common feeling/belief.

I agree this perception hurt democrats. Not because it was true but because they didn't do enough to counter it. It's the VP's job to step in if something happens to the President and there was no time for a primary, but this perception still hurt us.

Also, you guys aren't gonna like this, but the whole Trans thing is hurting the Dems. I've heard more than my fair share of women saying that they're voting for 2 genders, woman only spaces, etc. You can yell, scream, and call names all you want, but it doesn't change how people feel.

Put another way, much of the public REALLY hates queer people. Republicans have been using this as a rallying cry on all sorts of issues that have nothing to do with trans people. In my state, the abortion amendment was subject to a lot of disinformation that it was somehow related to letting kids transition even though the amendment did nothing of the sort. I don't think mainstream dems have actually pushed trans rights very hard, but the perception they are is very useful to right wing propaganda since trans people seem to inspire deep xenophobia to many people.

Democrats appear to be on the defensive on this issue. We are expected to counter piles of disinformation about trans people that is much easier to spread than refute. Brandolini's law is really helping republicans on these issues. The fact that trans people exist makes a lot of people uncomfortable and they seem easy to demonize. A lot of people seem far more interested in the false threat of kids transitioning than they do the very real threat of school shootings. Democrats don't like to fearmonger as much as republicans do and it hurt us a lot.

Finally because the Dems have really become perceived as bullies who try and silence anyone who doesn't tow the party line a lot of people don't say how they feel/who they're going to vote for because they don't want to be bullied/called names.

The way the right perceives censorship is so bizarre to me, because it's very much a projection. I know tons of people in rural areas with Harris signs got harassed. The conservative subreddit will just immediately ban people for disagreeing with them. ...but I have seen many conservatives claim they FEEL censored when liberals debate them in great numbers. the politics subreddit will downvote and argue with conservatives. The conservative sub just bans liberals, but they still believe they are being censored. Trump's comments about immigrants have often just been factually very racist, but we're the ones who are told we are out of line.

I do agree with you that this is a powerful perception, even if it's not reality. I have heard multiple conservatives say that they FEEL like they are being censored just because a bunch of lefties argued with them...

The Dems didn't do anything wrong, they put forth all the values and policies that I wanted and they made a great case for them. More people wanted what Trump was selling.

The biggest issue that I think dems kind of fucked up on as I stated in another thread was not doing enough to counter the absurd claim that Trump was good for the economy. I think what hurt democrats the most was the wide spread, if provably false belief that Republicans manage the economy better. Plenty of people thought they were voting with their pocket books and just didn't care enough about anything else.