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What is the impact of internal climate migration US, I wonder? I know at least one person who has left California because their property was too much at risk from wildfires, and many people must have been displaced by all the floods and hurricanes hitting the South East, going all the way back to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

ETA: I asked Google what the impact was, and found this, from 2018:
The US population has been on the move since settlers first arrived from Europe. At first it was mostly westward, then from farm areas to the cities. Then large numbers of black people moved from the South to northern cities, to work in the factories. When air-conditioning became practical, large numbers of other people moved to the "Sun Belt" in a reverse migration. Several of my neighbors here in Atlanta are from New York City, like I am. So if people move back north a climate zone or two to get away from excessive heat, it's just one more migration in a country that has seen it before.

The other migration that has been happening is people moving to where the cost of living is lower. Coastal cities are relatively expensive as far as housing, food, etc. When Boeing moved me from the Seattle area to north Alabama, they gave me a 10% raise to induce me to move, but it was a 50% increase in effective income because the cost of living was so much lower.
 

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So if people move back north a climate zone or two to get away from excessive heat, it's just one more migration in a country that has seen it before.
Yes, and since the US has, in the past, seen several large scale migrations in the past, it will be aware that inevitably have social and economic consequences, particularly since, in this case, many people will be leaving because they have no choice and will place an increasing demand on the housing stock, on education and social services, and all the other resources of the areas to which they move.

I'm sure the US can cope with them, but change and disruption inevitably have consequences, whatever they may be.
 
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I know at least one person who has left California because their property was too much at risk from wildfires, and many people must have been displaced by all the floods and hurricanes hitting the South East, going all the way back to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
I traded hurricanes and tornadoes for wildfires and earthquakes in 2006. Where I am I really only have to worry about smoke and earthquakes though.

It doesn't matter where you go, there will always be severe weather and earthquakes, volcanos (Yellowstone), typhoons, something. The only way to escape it is to leave the planet.

There was good reason the coastal tribes didn't actually live directly on the coast (for the most part) and some mountains are considered sacred. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with surviving what the planet throws at us.
 

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We tend to view the damage of climate change in apocalyptic terms, but it may be death by a thousand cuts. Here's one of them.

 

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However, the chance of a cascade of tipping points leading to a runaway greenhouse effect, where the planet gets ever hotter even if humanity stops carbon emissions, is extremely unlikely, according to Prof Anders Levermann....
I take such reassurances with a grain of salt. Most of the climate consequences we're observing right now were considered "extremely unlikely" just 10 or 20 years ago. Some scientists were derided as "pessimistic fear mongers" for "extreme" predictions that have turned out to be too conservative. We have consistently underestimated the rate of change and the impact of interlaced systems.
 
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We are so fucked. I mean, I knew that already, it's not news, but dear god we are so fucked.

Despite pandemic, level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere hits historic levels

Tans noted that humans continue to add about 40 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide pollution to the atmosphere each year, and that avoiding catastrophic changes to the climate will require reducing that number to zero as quickly as possible.

“The fact that CO2 concentrations at Mauna Loa data are already so high and are keep going up so fast is disturbing but not surprising because the emissions of CO2 continue to be incredibly high,” said Corinne Le Quéré, research professor of climate change science at the University of East Anglia. “The concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere will stop rising when the emissions approach zero.”
Except they probably won't. The melting permafrost and burning forests of Siberia alone will continue to add carbon to the atmosphere, even if (such an improbable if) we reach 0 emissions.
 
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The TV newsman Bill Moyers likes to tell the story of how Edward R Murrow, the pre-eminent US broadcast journalist of his time, insisted on covering what became Germany’s invasion of Poland in 1939. Murrow’s bosses at CBS News had other priorities; they ordered Murrow’s reporters to cover dance competitions in Hamburg, Paris and London, explaining that Americans needed some happy news. Murrow wouldn’t do it. “It’ll probably get us fired,” he told his colleagues, but he sent his correspondents to the German-Polish border; they arrived just in time to witness Hitler’s tanks and troops roar into Poland. Suddenly, Europe was at war. And Americans heard about it because journalists at one of the nation’s most influential news outlets defied convention and did their jobs.
 
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Record heat bakes Middle East as temperatures top 125 degrees
Temperatures in the Middle East have topped 125 degrees after a run of record-breaking heat. Several countries tied or challenged national records amid the blistering heat wave, which has brought a string of temperatures about 15 degrees above normal to the already baked region.

Five countries joined the 50-degree Celsius club, which equates to 122 degrees Fahrenheit. This extreme heat comes a full month before high temperatures reach their annual average peak.
 

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This melting glacier was already the biggest source of sea level rise. Then things got worse.

The Pine Island glacier was already scary. The 160-mile-long river of ice is known as “the weak underbelly” of West Antarctica. It contributes more to sea level rise than any other glacier on the continent and ranks among the fastest melting glaciers in the world.

Unlike other Antarctic glaciers, Pine Island is not sheltered from the warming ocean by a vast expanse of sea ice. The only thing preventing it from flowing directly into the Amundsen Sea embayment is a shelf of floating ice that sticks out from the glacier’s edge. This shelf is like a cork in a bottle, pressing against the stable sides of the bay to contain the tremendous pressure at its back.
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If this disintegration continues, “the whole shelf could potentially fall apart in the next few years, which is greatly faster than what we expected,” said Ian Joughin, a glaciologist at the University of Washington’s Applied Physics Laboratory who co-wrote the new report.
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Laurence Tubiana, the former French climate negotiator - a key actor in the triumphant Paris climate conference in 2015 - said: "In the face of a perfect storm of planetary crises - the world's richest democracies have responded with a plan to make a plan."

And swelling the challenge still further is the inconvenient fact that 20 years ago the G7 wealthy countries could really determine the fate of the climate.

Now we'd have to add India to the list. And Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey, Nigeria and South Africa. Oh yes, and China.

All these wakening giants will be more ready to act if they can see their rich counterparts put their finance where their words are.
 

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Last year’s long and very intense wildfire season started a vicious circle with deposits of peat catching fire, and burning even during the coldest days of winter - to then reignite again once the snow melted.

The Siberian Times reported on the peat fire continuing to burn all through rainy and cold autumn, and then at winter temperatures of -50C in northeastern Yakutia.
 
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