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Greta Thunberg has the world something to tell:

“Looking back [over two years], a lot has happened. Many millions have taken to the streets … and on 28 November 2019, the European parliament declared a climate and environmental emergency,” Thunberg said in an article for the Guardian with fellow strikers Luisa Neubauer, Anuna de Wever and Adélaïde Charlier.

“But over these last two years, the world has also emitted over 80bn tonnes of CO2. We have seen continuous natural disasters taking place across the globe. Many lives and livelihoods have been lost, and this is only the very beginning.”

They said leaders were speaking of an “existential crisis”, yet “when it comes to action, we are still in a state of denial. The gap between what we need to do and what’s actually being done is widening by the minute. Effectively, we have lost another two crucial years to political inaction.”

Thunberg and her colleagues said fighting the climate emergency must involve rich nations stopping some of their polluting activities. “However, it’s a fact which most people refuse to accept. Just the thought of being in a crisis that we cannot buy, build or invest our way out of seems to create some kind of collective mental short-circuit. This mix of ignorance, denial and unawareness is the very heart of the problem,” they said.

 

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No, oil prices are still pretty low ($42 a barrel as of today), and demand is weak because people are unemployed and working from home. Online shopping is up, but each delivery truck replaces many car trips that people used to drive individually.

Also, fracking is a short-term solution. Fracked wells decline much faster than traditional wells. So at a given oil price, they are worth less because they don't last as long. Prices need to be high enough *and stable* for them to take the risk on new wells.
 
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Yeah, but...the scary thing is:
Nowadays it would take us about 160 days to make up for that net loss he caused. If a catastrophe killed 1 million people instantly, you could start a 96 hour timer and go "Alright, we made up for it" once it reaches zero. Including the usual average deaths in that timespan.

Not accounting for the emotional loss, grief and tragedy, it puts the Corona deaths in perspective when it comes to sheer global population - it's not even slowing us down so far. Probably the opposite, with how many people are, uh, huddled up at home.
 
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Yeah, but...the scary thing is:
Nowadays it would take us about 160 days to make up for that net loss he caused. If a catastrophe killed 1 million people instantly, you could start a 96 hour timer and go "Alright, we made up for it" once it reaches zero. Including the usual average deaths in that timespan.
Or...if tomorrow, half the people on Earth killed just one person each, we've have a Thanos miracle on our hands.
 

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Thanos' 'snap' seemed so stupid. The human population has doubled in my lifetime. Doubled twice since my mom was born.
39 million Californians. 33 million acres of forest... presuming a flawless mechanism for getting -every- Californian to their assigned acre and, I dunno, transporting the raked detritus -somewhere- ... it could be done in a day, maybe two. In a world where elephants are perfectly spherical and frictionless.
 

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*waves around graduation certificate for silviculture*

Don't rake leaves - it steals the nutrients that are supposed to go back into the soil. Do proscribed burning instead where the ashes at least partially return to the soil...

We Europeans have raked out our forests for centuries - we had to learn the hard way it was a stupid idea ruining our once fertile soils for aeons to come...
 

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"Zombie" wildfires that were smoldering beneath the Arctic ice all winter suddenly flared to life this summer when the snow and ice above it melted, new monitoring data reveals.

And this year has been the worst for Arctic wildfires on record, since reliable monitoring began 17 years ago. Arctic fires this summer released as much carbon in the first half of July than a nation the size of Cuba or Tunisia does in a year.

That's according to monitoring by the Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service, the European Union's Earth-monitoring organization. More than 100 fires have burned across the Arctic since early June, according to Copernicus. "Obviously it's concerning," Copernicus senior scientist Mark Parrington told the BBC. "We really hadn't expected to see these levels of wildfires yet."
 

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No, oil prices are still pretty low ($42 a barrel as of today), and demand is weak because people are unemployed and working from home. Online shopping is up, but each delivery truck replaces many car trips that people used to drive individually.

Also, fracking is a short-term solution. Fracked wells decline much faster than traditional wells. So at a given oil price, they are worth less because they don't last as long. Prices need to be high enough *and stable* for them to take the risk on new wells.
Fracking makes only economically sense if the market price for oil has reached a certain minimum threshold, I guess it was around 60 US$ per barrel. All market prices below do make fracking economically unviable, because those don't cover up then the necessary production costs for fracked oil and gas. The same does apply to the tear sands of Canada.

So when Sauda Arabia started to drown the global market in cheap oil in February/March this year, this was originally targeted against Russia in order to cripple their government receipts. When then Russia joined in happily and drowned the global market in even more oil this was clearly targeted against American Fracking companies to drive them out of business.
 
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