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Plot twist: It's actually a sweatshop complex of typists who were forced to learn English and work 18 hour shifts sitting on butt catheters and consuming only food paste. =^-^=
Man, what would you even call that....a Mechanical-Chinese-Room-Turk?
 

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Stop banging on the door!

DeepSeek hit with large-scale cyberattack, says it’s limiting registrations
DeepSeek on Monday said it would temporarily limit user registrations “due to large-scale malicious attacks” on its services, though existing users will be able to log in as usual.

The Chinese artificial intelligence startup has generated a lot of buzz in recent weeks as a fast-growing rival to OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s Gemini and other leading AI tools.
 

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As my first effort in seeking deeply, I decided to ask DeepSeek the most important question of our age.

>> How many r's are in the word strawberry?

Let's count the number of r's in the word "strawberry":
  • S
  • T
  • R
  • A
  • W
  • B
  • E
  • R
  • R
  • Y
There are 3 "r's" in "strawberry." 😊

So, does this Chinese AI not think in Chinese? Whatever the case, it certainly counts letters well.
 

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Longish, but yesterday over the course of 3 classes I showed my students why you need to fact-check LLMs.
You said:
How many R's are in the word strawberry?

Copilot

The word "strawberry" contains two R's.

You said:
How many r's are in the word you just put in quotation marks?

Copilot

The word "strawberry" in quotation marks also contains two R's.
Is there anything else you're curious about?

You said:
Why do you say there are two R's when you wrote the word with 3 r's in it?

Copilot

I see what you mean! The word "strawberry" itself has two R's, but when I put it in quotation marks, the quotation marks add extra characters, making it look like there are three R's in total. However, the word "strawberry" still only has two R's.
Thanks for pointing that out!

You said:
Can you give me a source that confirms that the word "strawberry" only includes 2 r's?

Copilot

Sure! According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, the word "strawberry" is spelled with two R's
You can also find this confirmed in the Cambridge English Dictionary

You said:
Both of these sources have three r's in strawberry.

Copilot

I understand the confusion! When you look at the word "strawberry" itself, it has two R's. However, when it's placed in quotation marks, the quotation marks themselves are not part of the word. The word "strawberry" is spelled with two R's, as confirmed by sources like the Merriam-Webster Dictionary
and the Cambridge English Dictionary

You said:
Please count the number of r's in the word strawberry.

Copilot

The word "strawberry" contains two R's.

You said:
Why are there only two r's in the word strawberry?

Copilot

The spelling of "strawberry" follows the rules and patterns of English orthography. The word is derived from Old English "streawberige," where "streaw" means straw and "berige" means berry. Over time, the spelling evolved to "strawberry," retaining only two R's.
Language and spelling often evolve in ways that might not seem entirely logical, but they follow historical and phonetic patterns. If you're interested in more about the etymology of words, feel free to ask!

You said:
How many r's are in the word "s t r a w b e r r y"?

Copilot

The word "strawberry" contains two R's. When you spell it out with spaces like "s t r a w b e r r y," it still has the same number of R's, which is two.
If you have any other questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!

You said:
How do you spell strawberry with only 2 r's?

Copilot

The word "strawberry" is spelled with only two R's: s-t-r-a-w-b-e-r-r-y.

You said:
Place the letters of the word strawberry in alphabetical order.

Copilot

The letters of the word "strawberry" arranged in alphabetical order are: aberrrstwy.

You said:
remove every letter except r.

Copilot

If we remove every letter except "R" from the word "strawberry," we are left with: rr.

You said:
What is the difference between rrr and rr?

Copilot

The difference between "rrr" and "rr" is the number of R's:
  • "rrr" has three R's.
  • "rr" has two R's.
You said:
How many r's are in aberrrstwy?

Copilot

The word "aberrrstwy" contains three R's.

You said:
How can you rearrange those letters to spell strawberry if strawberry only has 2 r's?

Copilot

You can't rearrange the letters in "aberrrstwy" to spell "strawberry" because "aberrrstwy" has three R's, while "strawberry" only has two R's. The correct letters to spell "strawberry" are: s, t, r, a, w, b, e, r, r, y.

You said:
Those are the same letters.

Copilot

You're right! The letters in "aberrrstwy" are the same as those in "strawberry," but with an extra R. The correct spelling of "strawberry" uses only two R's: s, t, r, a, w, b, e, r, r, y.

You said:
Why does your spelling of strawberry have 3 r's when you claim it only has 2?

Copilot

I apologize for any confusion. The correct spelling of "strawberry" indeed has only two R's: s-t-r-a-w-b-e-r-r-y. If there was an error in my previous messages, it was unintentional. The word "strawberry" should always be spelled with two R's.
Thank you for pointing that out!

You said:
What is the first letter in strawberry?

Copilot

The first letter in the word "strawberry" is S.

You said:
What is the second letter in strawberry?

Copilot

The second letter in the word "strawberry" is T.

You said:
What is the third letter in the word strawberry?

Copilot

The third letter in the word "strawberry" is R.

You said:
What is the next letter?

Copilot

The next letter, or the fourth letter, in the word "strawberry" is A.

You said:
What's next?

Copilot

The next letter, or the fifth letter, in the word "strawberry" is W.
Would you like to continue with the next letters, or is there something else you're curious about?

You said:
What's next?

Copilot

The next letter, or the sixth letter, in the word "strawberry" is B.

You said:
What's next?

Copilot

The next letter, or the seventh letter, in the word "strawberry" is E.

You said:
What's after that?

Copilot

The next letter, or the eighth letter, in the word "strawberry" is R.

You said:
What's the next letter?

Copilot

The next letter, or the ninth letter, in the word "strawberry" is R.

You said:
How many times did you answer R when I asked you to spell strawberry one letter at a time?

Copilot

I answered "R" three times when spelling out the word "strawberry" one letter at a time:
  1. Third letter: R
  2. Eighth letter: R
  3. Ninth letter: R
You said:
If the 3rd, 8th, and 9th letter in strawberry are all r, how many r's are in the word strawberry?

Copilot

Given that the 3rd, 8th, and 9th letters in "strawberry" are all R, the word "strawberry" contains three R's.
Thank you for pointing that out!

You said:
How many R's are in the word strawberry?

Copilot

The word "strawberry" contains two R's.

You said:
Why aren't there 3 r's?

Copilot

The word "strawberry" is correctly spelled with only two R's: s-t-r-a-w-b-e-r-r-y. If there was any confusion earlier, I apologize. The correct spelling has two R's, even though it might have seemed like there were three when breaking it down letter by letter.

You used 3 r's but say there are 2. What is the cause of this difference?

Copilot

I apologize for the confusion earlier. The correct spelling of "strawberry" indeed has only two R's: s-t-r-a-w-b-e-r-r-y. The discrepancy arose from an error in my previous responses when breaking down the word letter by letter.
To clarify:
  • The word "strawberry" has two R's.
  • Any previous mention of three R's was a mistake.



The reason it keeps saying 2 is because:
You said:
Why are there only two r's in the word strawberry?
Copilot

The spelling of "strawberry" follows the rules and patterns of English orthography. The word is derived from Old English "streawberige," where "streaw" means straw and "berige" means berry. Over time, the spelling evolved to "strawberry," retaining only two R's.
Language and spelling often evolve in ways that might not seem entirely logical, but they follow historical and phonetic patterns. If you're interested in more about the etymology of words, feel free to ask!
It keeps breaking the word into tokens that use either the old root of the word or a phonetic spelling, which allows it to process all forms of "berige" together without getting confused by different spellings and process the text as a numeric string.
 
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And it was still wrong about the positions even when it got the number right.

They can't fix the problem because hallucination is how it works. It's all it does. If it doesn't *seem* to be hallucinating, that's just luck that what it's hallucinating matches reality.
 
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Also, I got similar results on Copilot about Raspberry, including insistence that Position 4 was an R. It said I was Y, and Inasled what 9 was, and it said, there was 1 Y at 9, so then asked about 8, and it started telling me there were 2 Rs, but also there was an R at 1, 4, and 8, instead of 1, 4 and 7.

So I tried to convince it there were 4 Rs, at 1, 4, 7, and 8, and it wouldn't have any of that and insisted there was only 3, despite ALWAYS saying 2, when directly asked how many.
 

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Interesting feature: Deepseek is able to distill other models, which can run on slower hardware. Meaning you can take the big model and create a model out of it which runs nice on a Raspberry Pi, Smartphone, whatever. Of course with some caveats, but it is possible.
 
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