Brexit.

[Sid]

The Guardian expects a close call, when the agreement is up for a vote upcoming week:

PM's Brexit deal still on knife-edge despite claim he has the numbers

Analysis of voting intentions suggests Boris Johnson is still one vote short of majority

www.theguardian.com

Only one vote short.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I haven't seen this from any source other than the Mail but....

Can't see it passing, and even if it did, it's hardly compatible with the Human Rights Act and ECHR, I would have thought.

Political theatre, like that idea of confirmation hearings for senior judges, since those are such an adornment to the US justice system, which, as we all know, is so much better than ours -- stupid idea, advanced for the benefit of stupid people by Tory MPs who are either themselves stupid or insincere, and in neither event worth losing sleep over.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Nigel Farage is disappointed about the ERG backing BoJo's deal:

 

[Kara Spengler]

Nigel Farage is disappointed about the ERG backing BoJo's deal:

*giggles* at his mouth being covered by a play button and his eyes looking like they are asking people to press it

 

[Innula Zenovka]

This thread is an example of the kind of analysis I find so much more helpful than attempts to predict the size of majorities for and against the WA.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

The EU should only give an extension exactly long enough to get an agreement legalized or make a bill to revoke A50.

Disagree. They should give an extension long enough for the new EU transparency laws that Brexit is really about to bite good and hard.

 

[Daniel Voyager]

 

[Tigger]

This is one of the reasons DUP turned on the Tories:

 

[Daniel Voyager]

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Daniel Voyager]

Government publishes Brexit bill
110 pages

 

[Sid]

Okay.
Forgive me that I will not read it.

 

[Tigger]

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Okay.
Forgive me that I will not read it.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Boris Johnson.

 

[Essence Lumin]

More information here.

It's more like they've been screwing around for 3 years and still don't know about the house.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Disagree. They should give an extension long enough for the new EU transparency laws that Brexit is really about to bite good and hard.

Yes, give a politician just enough time to do X and it will never be long enough. If it takes them, oh, a month of 'work' they will not start doing it until a week before the deadline so you have to base the time on something other than enough time to do what they say they want to do.

 

[Da5id Weatherwax]

At this point it's "a maze of twisty passages all alike"

Personally I think they are all going to get eaten by a grue.

 

[Sid]

not true. They spend spoiled 3 years already.

 

[Sid]

Yes, give a politician just enough time to do X and it will never be long enough. If it takes them, oh, a month of 'work' they will not start doing it until a week before the deadline so you have to base the time on something other than enough time to do what they say they want to do.

So if you want them to be ready in a month, you must give them a week?

 

[Chin Rey]

It's more like they've been screwing around for 3 years and still don't know about the house.

That's more true than you realize. The Brexit agreement was published today. Not the withdrawal agreement which defines how Brexit is to be implelemented but the actual Brexit agreement that defines what Brexit means. The government did keep that rather important document secret from everybody, including the MPs for over a year and they weren't actually planning to show it to the MPs until after the parliament had voted for it. Now, I may be overly suspicious but it's not normal procedure for a parliament to pass bills unseen so there is something strange going on here...