All things Linux

[Essence Lumin]

Holy smoke, new Apt is about to look fantastic.

It's still on Debian testing at the moment so it's going to be a little while before I get to see it on stable, but what an improvement!

Looks like whoever took the screenshot should expand their boot partition.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

I have had so many "default installs" of Linux create a fucking miniscule /boot partition and then completely fuck up by the numbers and I go back and reinstall from scratch because trying to expand it ...

Also, back in the '80s, I suggested putting the partition table in its own partition in the days when it had to fit in a sector and got completely shouted down because that would waste a WHOLE MEGABYTE because everything was measured in cylinders instead of sectors back then even though real drives were already faking cylinders and using sectors was only sensible but that was ALSO obviously a BAD IDEA but nobody could explain why...

And so the last time I got hold of someone involved in writing this installation software I asked them why they bothered making /boot smaller than a gigabyte on any real disk any more and got THE SAME DAMN ARGUMENT ABOUT WASTED SPACE.

Sheesh.

I don't install Linux these days often enough* to remember this whole dance from the last time so every time I'm reminded of why I shouldn't use the default install.

Let's party like it's 1979.

* Thank you Docker.

 

[Noodles]

> That would waste a whole megabyte

Was Linux even a thing when that was a relevant amount? I want to say the first time I tried installing Linux (which failed) I had at least 2gb, maybe around 2.5. This was in like 2002, 2003 maybe.

Bing says 1991. Which I suppose would be a time when megabytes were more scarce.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

> That would waste a whole megabyte

Was Linux even a thing when that was a relevant amount?

"Back in the '80s"

This was actual licensed UNIX complete with Copyright AT&T and Copyright the Regents of the University of California and Linus wasn't even old enough to be hacking kernels yet and I think one of the people in the discussion was Joy or McKusick or someone like that. Did Linux ever use a traditional UNIX boot sector instead of a System V style boot partition?

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Hmm lessee. Looks like when I installed Debian last time I gave myself a 1GB boot, 7GB swap, 93GB root, and the rest of the drive for /home.

The scheme seems to work for me but it is definitely filling up though, a little faster than I expected it would. I think likely by next summer I'm going to have to buy some expansion.

 

[Noodles]

"Back in the '80s"

This was actual licensed UNIX complete with Copyright AT&T and Copyright the Regents of the University of California and Linus wasn't even old enough to be hacking kernels yet and I think one of the people in the discussion was Joy or McKusick or someone like that. Did Linux ever use a traditional UNIX boot sector instead of a System V style boot partition?

I have no idea about Unix but I though it may have been the case of what you were talking about.

 

[Khamon]

The short version: Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted - Phoronix

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Linus still doesn't cut anyone any slack, in a good way.

 

[Khamon]

If only they would release a Slackware version.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

The short version: Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted - Phoronix

In other words Linus is discriminating people because of their origin, nothing more nothing less. And this is just ridiculous, it is open source - so anybody can look at the source for funny things.

Also why an international open source project must comply with 3rd party compliance demands is way beyond me.

Because as somebody said rightfully: "If Torvalds is worried about Russkie spies infiltrating the kernel, I guarantee you those spies don't call themselves Boris Putinov and use a .ru address."

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

It's not just anyone who's Russian. The maintainers who've been removed have been people who worked for companies that are on the sanctioned individuals/organizations list.

Again, we're really sorry it's come to this, but all of the Linux infrastructure and a lot of its maintainers are in the US and we can't ignore the requirements of US law. We are hoping that this action alone will be sufficient to satisfy the US Treasury department in charge of sanctions and we won't also have to remove any existing patches.

The simple fact that Linux and things like kernel patches are open source and can be gone through by anyone can't be depended on as a safety measure, because the ability to look doesn't guarantee that anyone is actually looking. As spotlighted earlier this year when the XZ Utils backdoor managed to make it into Fedora and Debian beta releases before it was detected purely by accident.

 

[Noodles]

Yeah, also, its one thing to be duped by someone hiding their identity, its another to just let obvious perernial bad actors participate.

 

[Noodles]

Ugh, I am starting to remeber why I dislike using Linux.

Laptop doesn't automount the other partitions in my laptop.

Do some fstab work.

Its not really working out.

Discover Mint has the option in the GUI.

Revert the fstab file.

Automount

It works just fine for the old C: drive, but now the "E doesn't mount at all, manually or not.

All the solutions online suggest various things to run in Linix and Windows and disabling fast boot and nothing works. So now I am dumping it all off to a temporrary drive (through Windows, which works fine), so I can try just reformatting the partition as ext4.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Yeah I like Linux and I'm not going back, but I will freely admit that I'm making things a little harder, and once in a while quite a bit harder, on myself by using it.

Obviously I think it's worth it, for ideological reasons really. But for someone who doesn't share those cares Linux is a tough sell, lol.

 

[Noodles]

Yeah I like Linux and I'm not going back, but I will freely admit that I'm making things a little harder, and once in a while quite a bit harder, on myself by using it.

Obviously I think it's worth it, for ideological reasons really. But for someone who doesn't share those cares Linux is a tough sell, lol.

In theory, I am going to go 100% on this laptop anyway, since Windows 10 is soon EOL. So just blowing out that partition for a large ext4 partition isn't/wasn't the worst choice. I am in the process of moving the home folder to it now.

The copy didn't take too long since it was already fairly empty because its mostly just "working files".

The last two major things I need/want to resolve is getting a copy of Affinity for Linux. I have been meaning to upgrade anyway. Its just a buy it thing (that I can't afford at this very moment).

I also want to get a One Drive client going, because I use OneDrive a lot for sync and back up and general access to files. I already "replaced" the more crucial bits of this woth some provate github repositories full of text files, but I would prefer more. I found a client that people say works great, but I still have not wuite worked out how to make it selectively sync because I don't have the space for it to try to sync everything (several TBs).

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

I think I used onedriver as a GUI sync front end, but I've read that rclone works really well with OneDrive, though it takes some setup. But either one will put a OneDrive folder in your file browser that works the way you'd expect it to, which I think is what you want.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Anyway, I just want to say, it comes up extremely quickly from standby, which is surprising, especially aince my laptop is like, maybe 10 years old now.

If you have a hard drive in it, replace it with an SSD. It'll be like getting a brand new laptop. I did that with my 10-year-old laptop, and the boot time went from about 30 seconds to about 6 seconds.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

In a Bash terminal (if you have one):

telnet rya.nc 1987

 

[Free]

In a Bash terminal (if you have one):

telnet rya.nc 1987

I'm trying to decide if it counts if there's no sound. Partial credit, at least.

P.S. telnet

 

[Essence Lumin]

In a Bash terminal (if you have one):

telnet rya.nc 1987

Spoiler

Doesn't really work here though - no sound

I see Free already gave you just partial credit because of that.