Again? Come on Innula, show me ONE labour MP who has ever suggested that Labour would revoke article 50 if they won a general election.
They won't. They absolutely will not revoke it. 0% chance of that outcome, UNLESS they need LibDems and SNP to form a majority and they make it a precondition of a deal.
A general election actually changes nothing with respect to brexit. The negotiations are over, the only possible outcomes are No Deal, May's deal, No Brexit. Labour will not revoke so no brexit is off the table, it would be electoral suicide for Labour to support May's deal and No Deal burns the country down. Labour will be as frozen as the Tories and will hemorrhage support just as fast.
Winning a GE pre-brexit or early post-brexit will be a poison pill for labour that they will struggle to survive.
One of my cardinal rules in life was well articulated by Michael Corleone in the movie Godfather III:
Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.
and I fear you are allowing your understandable dislike of Jeremy Corbyn -- which I share to no small extent -- to do exactly that.
Let me try to lay out my reasoning as simply as I can. If you see a flaw with it, please tell me what's wrong so I can refine it.
At present, there are three possible outcomes to Brexit -- Parliament accepts WA and we leave, to continue negotiations about a long term relationship as suggested (no more) in the vague Political Negotiation, OR the Government revokes the A50 and we remain, with or without first holding a second referendum, OR the Government either does nothing (indeed some Conservative leadership candidates seem to want to prorogue Parliament to ensure nothing can be done) or asks the EU for another extension and is declined and, we crash out with a chaotic no deal.
Those, to my mind, are the only possible outcomes right now -- all talk of reopening negotiations and tinkering with the backstop and suchlike are simple wishful thinking which the EU has already made clear it won't countenance, and there's no reason to suppose they're anything but deadly serious.
Of the three outcomes, all at present seem impossible with the current parliament -- the Withdrawal Agreement is pretty much dead in the water -- TM couldn't get it passed, and none of the current frontrunners want to try. Even if one of them then resiles from his or her campaign promises and try to succeed where May failed, there's no reason to suppose either the Conservative Party or Parliament in general would allow this to happen.
Similarly, it seems vanishingly improbable that any incoming Conservative PM would have a sudden change of heart and revoke A50 of his or her own volition (and it would probably need Parliamentary approval too).
What then of crashing out without a deal at all, which several of the most front-runners have said is their preferred option? Parliament have already once made it clear they won't allow that, and there's no reason to suppose things have changed to any significant extent.
What can happen, since it seems there is no majority to be found for any of the three possible outcomes?
My answer is that, since we can't change the options -- Withdrawal Agreement/Remain/No Deal -- to make any of them acceptable to the present parliament, then the only way to stop parliament blocking all three is to find a new parliament.
And the only way to do that is to hold a general election.
There's no guarantee that even the default condition -- No Deal -- can hold up, since it's open to parliament to pass a no confidence motion in the government to prevent that happening, thus forcing a general election (in the event of a successful no-confidence motion the government would have to ask for a short extension to which the EU would have to agree -- I cannot imagine anyone on either side, whatever their role or views, allowing the UK to fall off the cliff when it was without a government).
So my point is that all routes to our remaining in the EU, with or without a second referendum, run through a general election and so, too do all conceivable routes to leaving with a deal.
While it may or may not be possible to get as far as no deal without the government being derailed by a successful no confidence vote -- I just don't know -- that's not particularly relevant since we're discussing ways to remain in the EU.
Now, what of the outcomes of the general election? If some combination of the Conservatives/Brexit Party win a majority, then game over, though that seems a very unlikely prospect (maybe first past the post has a few advantages after all?).
While it's possible Labour could win an absolute majority, I very much doubt it's possible, so I won't discuss it here.
That leaves us with some form of minority government, in which Labour is the largest single party by far, relying on the support of the SNP, LibDems, PC, Greens and assorted independents. The A50 notification is still in force, and the clock is ticking.
What happens next?
To my mind, given the views of all the parties on whose support the new minority government will depend -- whether as coalition partners or on a confidence and supply basis, similar to the DUP's agreement with the Tories -- and those of at least three quarters of the Parliamentary Labour Party and the overwhelming majority of the party's national membership in the Constituencies (normally Corbyn's base of support, but not over Brexit), the only possible outcome is that the UK withdraw the A50 notification, whether after a second referendum or -- to my mind far more likely if things have got this point -- after a token attempt at re-negotiation has failed to re-open the WA, simply by agreement of Parliament.
Whatever Corbyn's supposed views or those of people around him, at this stage I think the Remain MPs, both inside and outside his party, would be pushing at an open door by this time, since it would enable Labour to say, quite truly, that the previous administration's failure to deliver Brexit during the past two years, and its failure to prepare beforehand means this attempt to leave the EU on anything like acceptable terms is a failure and there's no option but to accept that.
At some point in the future, he might say, we may reconsider it and again consider leaving, only this time knowing what's possible and what's not, and with a coherent and realistic plan that the EU could accept, but to the time being, Brexit it over.
The UK, he would say, accepts that its future lies in the EU for the foreseeable future, as a fully committed partner that sincerely wants to remain and to work with other EU social democratic and socialist parties, alongside others, to reform some of the EU's various deficiencies and to strengthen it against threats from populist authoritarianism, both external and internal, and to work together on climate change.
Now, he could go on to say, we can go on to try to tackle some of the many huge problems -- inequality, social exclusion, poverty -- that have been allowed to worsen and fester during the last three years and which caused many people to vote Leave in the first place, in the hope that might improve things.
Seems to be a very acceptable and dignified get-out, particularly for a man who has always seemed far more concerned about high-minded causes overseas -- the plight of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories, or black South Africans under apartheid, or victims of various South American right-wing authoritarians -- than in the messy and burdensome business of governing his own country.
That's my take on the situation.
If there are flaws in how I read things, please tell me. I am very aware that everything can still go horribly wrong and we crash into a no-deal Brexit by accident (though I am certain that plenty of people in all parties both here and the EU, and plenty very able civil servants and advisors on both sides, are doing all they can to avoid that) but barring something completely unexpected happening, I can't see any route to remaining in the EU that doesn't involve a general election, and once that election is held, it's difficult to see how -- if Labour emerge as the largest party, that is -- we don't remain members of the EU.