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You guys are talking like its over. It probably is, but I'd give Trump a 20% chance of still getting this thing to his newly bought Justices after Michigan delays its certification past the deadline.
He is depressed and moping around. He doesn't have the energy to try anything.You guys are talking like its over. It probably is, but I'd give Trump a 20% chance of still getting this thing to his newly bought Justices after Michigan delays its certification past the deadline.
Frustrating a lot of people are willing to give them a pass. While I can see family members since you do not choose them I have no qualms about cutting them off from society and never looking back.It will be a long, drawn-out process involving multiple criminal cases. Once he and his family are in jail and their phones are taken away, his supporters will gradually fade away, like in Germany after WWII.
Yeah, if he did anything he would get someone else to do it. Sucks to be him because any good lawyer knows he does not pay his bills.He is depressed and moping around. He doesn't have the energy to try anything.
I don't think that's quite how it happened in Germany post WWII. Not according to Susan Neiman, certainly:It will be a long, drawn-out process involving multiple criminal cases. Once he and his family are in jail and their phones are taken away, his supporters will gradually fade away, like in Germany after WWII.
I only ran a quick search, but this seems to hold up to casual scrutiny.But it's not as if the president of the United States has to live in the White House. No law requires it.
I'm about 110% certain Graham [and others] are being blackmailed, I'm just not all that sure its Twitler doing the blackmailing.... or even an american citizen doing it.We don't know if he has blackmail on them. And anyone who doesn't think he uses blackmail hasn't thought much about Lindsey Graham.
After the new president is sworn in, his predecessor will become a private citizen again, and is thus as subject to removal from federal property as an unwanted trespasser as would anyone else be, surely?I just had a disturbing thought...
We know Trump can't actually hold presidential power after Jan 20, barring some kind of act of god, right? I mean, I know it's 2020, but him staying in office after Jan 20 is really far fetched, even in 2020.
But does he actually have to leave the physical building of the White House? I'm not sure about that.
I am definitely not a lawyer, but I looked everywhere, and I found no law on the books saying that the president must give up white house when they leave office, or that they must reside in the white house, or that they must use the white house for this and that. The closest thing I found to anything even discussing the possibility of such a law is here, from a How Stuff Works article.
I only ran a quick search, but this seems to hold up to casual scrutiny.
So Trump obtained residency in the White House through mere custom, not through force of law.
Does that mean he could retain residency in the White House by ignoring custom, and refusing to vacate?
Everything I've seen said about Trump staying in the White House so far has been using the term 'White House' figuratively, not literally. We know he can't retain the power of the White House, but he maybe he could hypothetically retain his residency there? Technically, that's all previous presidents have ever done. None of them ever owned it or paid rent. American presidents are all a bunch of squatters.
Biden and Trump would make the most awkward room mates, LOL
IDK... my casual understanding of squatter's rights in America says that it's very difficult to remove somebody from a residence, even if they don't pay rent or a mortgage. Removing one resident who doesn't own or rent the property for another resident who doesn't own or rent the property might get legally hairy. Trump has probably dealt with squatter's rights with his work in New York real estate, so he probably knows all the squatter's tricks.After the new president is sworn in, his predecessor will become a private citizen again, and is thus as subject to removal from federal property as an unwanted trespasser as would anyone else be, surely?
Scenario: Biden tells Secret Service to escort Trump off the premises.IDK... my casual understanding of squatter's rights in America says that it's very difficult to remove somebody from a residence, even if they don't pay rent or a mortgage. Removing one resident who doesn't own or rent the property for another resident who doesn't own or rent the property might get legally hairy. Trump has probably dealt with squatter's rights with his work in New York real estate, so he probably knows all the squatter's tricks.
Again, I'm totally not a lawyer at all, I'm just wildly speculating.
Also speculating, but any squatters rights are matters of state law and that is federal property.IDK... my casual understanding of squatter's rights in America says that it's very difficult to remove somebody from a residence, even if they don't pay rent or a mortgage. Removing one resident who doesn't own or rent the property for another resident who doesn't own or rent the property might get legally hairy. Trump has probably dealt with squatter's rights with his work in New York real estate, so he probably knows all the squatter's tricks.
Again, I'm totally not a lawyer at all, I'm just wildly speculating.
I will never forgive donnie, the rs, and don's cult for what they have done to this country. I am not about to forget they took over my small town where I grew up which used to be as many independent parties as adults but everyone used to be civil. They threaten people I know and are related to, no matter how much those people gave to the town over the years. I got off the community list to not remind maggots, who could not reach me, that they could reach other people. They corrupted a childhood friend who is mentally slow so just does what other people say. Fuck them all to hell.Although I'm fairly certain at this point that Biden will take office in January, I don't think the damage that Trump is wreaking will fade away. I'm concerned that this has in fact weakened American democratic institutions beyond repair in ways we have yet to catalog. The behavior of the Republican Party in enabling Trump, and more importantly in not speaking out against his crimes and norm-breaking actions, has revealed that they're not the least interested in a democratic nation. Their only concern is maintaining power by any means, and a not-insignificant portion of the population is okay with that.
That whole "consent of the governed"? They're not that into it anymore.
After jan 20 he will be trespassing.I just had a disturbing thought...
We know Trump can't actually hold presidential power after Jan 20, barring some kind of act of god, right? I mean, I know it's 2020, but him staying in office after Jan 20 is really far fetched, even in 2020.
But does he actually have to leave the physical building of the White House? I'm not sure about that.
I am definitely not a lawyer, but I looked everywhere, and I found no law on the books saying that the president must give up white house when they leave office, or that they must reside in the white house, or that they must use the white house for this and that. The closest thing I found to anything even discussing the possibility of such a law is here, from a How Stuff Works article.
I only ran a quick search, but this seems to hold up to casual scrutiny.
So Trump obtained residency in the White House through mere custom, not through force of law.
Does that mean he could retain residency in the White House by ignoring custom, and refusing to vacate?
Everything I've seen said about Trump staying in the White House so far has been using the term 'White House' figuratively, not literally. We know he can't retain the power of the White House, but he maybe he could hypothetically retain his residency there? Technically, that's all previous presidents have ever done. None of them ever owned it or paid rent. American presidents are all a bunch of squatters.
Biden and Trump would make the most awkward room mates, LOL
Squatting ends by several things, including the legal tenant asking them to leave.IDK... my casual understanding of squatter's rights in America says that it's very difficult to remove somebody from a residence, even if they don't pay rent or a mortgage. Removing one resident who doesn't own or rent the property for another resident who doesn't own or rent the property might get legally hairy. Trump has probably dealt with squatter's rights with his work in New York real estate, so he probably knows all the squatter's tricks.
Again, I'm totally not a lawyer at all, I'm just wildly speculating.
If they would like to lock him in the whitehouse broom closet for a couple of days with Biden's permission that would be ok with me.Squatting ends by several things, including the legal tenant asking them to leave.