Aribeth Zelin
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At any rate, talks about 100 years even earlier.It matters? How? In helping us avoid repeating past mistakes? Great.
So explain to me why the republicans are so keen on repeating the Democrat's past atrocities, and why dem's are committed to a better path?
p.s. Just got around to clicking your link and all I have is "Ewwwwww"
What is a "democrat party"? I have never heard of such a thing except by extreme right-wing nut jobs who can't for some reason say "Democratic Party". At any rate, let the record also show that the Republican and Democratic Parties switched places in the middle of the last century when a bunch of Old South Democrats became Republicans. So when you point at the Democrats as upholders of slavery, you are pointing to the name only. If you're going to spout history, you might want to get it right.At any rate let the record show that all slaveholders were democrats and they fought a war with the republican north to preserve slavery. Democrat party owns responsibility for the KKK almost all democrats. Slavery wasn't an american problem as much as a democrat party problem.
I'm not so sure of that.Oh fuck off, Bubba. You are not stupid enough to believe the bullshit you're writing.
What is a "democrat party"? I have never heard of such a thing except by extreme right-wing nut jobs who can't for some reason say "Democratic Party". At any rate, let the record also show that the Republican and Democratic Parties switched places in the middle of the last century when a bunch of Old South Democrats became Republicans. So when you point at the Democrats as upholders of slavery, you are pointing to the name only. If you're going to spout history, you might want to get it right.
The real reason 'Democrat Party' is wrong is not because it's ungrammatical, but because it's incorrect in another way—the party is simply not named the Democrat Party, but the Democratic Party. Calling it anything else is discourteous.
It's a deliberate discourtesy, so if you see him lamenting about the big bad meanies oh woe is he, so put upon by us savages, you can fling that at him."It is the idiotic creation of some of the least responsible members of the Republican Party."
But it is one of the worst ways.Looking at statues isn't, of course, the only way to learn about history.
Why are you even here, you piece of shit> GTFO. Cannot figure out when you aren't wanted? I guess that is the whole point,? K, yeah. All you are here to do is cause trouble, and it is my fervent hope that the next time you are banned, Cris uses your ip. I know that isn't all that valid, but better than seeing your ugly ass face and words.I can see the point that there should be more abolitionist statues and black heroes from the various eras, but I can only accept taking down the existing ones by a vote at least, not by the ignorant mob for political stunts.
Important. Also transient and likely forgotten by most people in a few years.I dunno...
Oh, certainly, and what's important about a statue is its cultural significance and history -- why it was created in the first place, and by whom, and how it comes to be standing where it does, and how and why its cultural meaning and significance change over history, and what eventually happens to it.Important. Also transient and likely forgotten by most people in a few years.
Statues provide a physical consideration of honor or remembrance of someone or something. They can bring a moment of reflection or set off a spark an interest in learning about that person, place or thing, but I don't believe they should be considered artifacts of real knowledge.
Should I post about statues of important figures of history who were not racist a-holes, in fact quite the opposite, and see how they were torn down or defiled anyway? I guess during a revolution, innocent people get hurt. Thankfully, these are just statues.
People didn't go to the trouble and expense of erecting the thing in the first place, and the local or federal authorities didn't permit this, simply to help people's failing memories, of course, or as a sort of Madame Tussauds exhibit in stone.The funny thing is, statues like the one of General Lee in Richmond were meant to help retain a memory of something that a segment of white people didn't want to forget. Like the Berlin Wall, now it may be used to remember that, as well as something altogether different.
Sort of. Here in the South the monuments and statues are part of a more complex context. They are one part of the constant message designed to insure that certain people know their place. As an example, two years ago during construction of a building the graves of a group of slaves were uncovered, and they were quickly and quietly moved to a nearby cemetery. When word got out there was a good deal of outrage from the African American community that the proper notification and care was not extended to the remains, but there was total silence outside of that. At the same time we have a rather large memorial on the main thoroughfare to the local soldiers who were killed in the "War For Southern Independence." Every time there has been talk of moving it to a nearby battlefield you can hear the uproar two counties away. The message to the community is clear.JFC. The point of those statues never was "preserve our history, our beautiful heritage." They were almost universally cheap-ass statues sold during the reformation as "keep out" signs for the white neighborhoods. They have about as much cultural value as a plastic flamingo. The South has had over 100 years -- 100 years! -- to vote to take down the hateful things. They didn't get it done. They never even seriously raised the question.